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ForgeRockThursday May 13, 2010
I had dinner recently with Lasse Andresen and Simon Phipps. They're two of the folks behind a new company: ForgeRock. They're another great little company spinning out of the rubble that Oracle created out of Sun. They do service, support and development on what used to be called OpenSSO (among other things). While Sun had open-sourced the code, Oracle still owns the name, so the ForgeRock folks picked a new name: OpenAM (Open Access Manager). OpenSSO is another case where Oracle EOL-d the superior product and then sent salesdroids to OpenSSO customers with term sheets that were truly frightening. They did a great job of creating a business for ForgeRock.

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James, I liked you. We know Oracle is going to eventually kill off most everything they got from Sun in one way or another... including killing off the community that has made Java so great.

Posted by Javaman on May 13, 2010 at 09:15 AM PDT #

Maybe I'm dreaming...but I would like to see a resurrection of the Sun Microsystems synergy that made it so great - it's people. And I wish for the rebirth of a "Sun2.0" or something to reunite the creativity and brain bank that brought more to the open source community that any company on the planet!

Posted by Supercode on May 13, 2010 at 09:34 AM PDT #

openAM is a very unfortunate name for Turkish.

Posted by afsina on May 13, 2010 at 01:05 PM PDT #

Dear James, Further to your below comment: "Java is far from dead, it's path has become complicated, but still vibrant. I'll still be involved. Not sure how yet".... We need your help here in Sri Lanka for something which can become huge involving Java. We are preparing a Java World Congress but with a twist! Kindly get in touch with me as soon it would be possible to you. Thank you. Brigitte Siriwardhana

Posted by Brigitte Siriwardhana on May 13, 2010 at 01:48 PM PDT #

You write good articles, I will always be concerned about

Posted by rosetta stone on May 13, 2010 at 06:58 PM PDT #


Posted by Radin on May 13, 2010 at 10:51 PM PDT #

Dear James, java is origanally aopen source now Oracle has acquired java, so what next? will it remains open sounce?

Posted by Ajit Kumar on May 14, 2010 at 02:23 AM PDT #

Java was a gift from you to Sun and from Sun to the technology world so it could be free of the tyranny of Microsoft. I believe that Java will remain open source. Oracle looks to make money first (first) and control platforms. It can do that without closing Java back down. But then perhaps I am being naive.

Posted by Rich on May 14, 2010 at 07:36 PM PDT #

Off subject, but I just noogled "Musicrosystems". Almost a spoonerism.

Posted by coderextreme on May 15, 2010 at 01:42 AM PDT #

Resurrection of Sun.I love to see it in my life time.Thanks James.You have given life to millions of s/w professionals.The world owes you so much.We are with you and Scott.

Posted by Sree on May 15, 2010 at 09:21 AM PDT #

I would love to see sun back again.sun had vision for is not worthy enough to contain java and move it forward.we need visionary folks,we need open eyes :)

Posted by jar on May 16, 2010 at 02:11 AM PDT #

Sounds like I tweeted correctly a month ago: ? ?? ?c ( NewCo(?) & Co(?) & ?(?) & ( OpenSource(?,c) ? LikelyUse(?,c) ) & LeanEfficient(?) ) :-)

Posted by henry story on May 16, 2010 at 05:07 AM PDT #

That was a very good read,Maybe I might sign up to your rss.

Posted by nfl store on May 16, 2010 at 08:36 PM PDT #

Perhaps you would be interested in what is happening with Java technology in the realtime and embedded systems market. Sun did not make providing products for in this space easy. Let us see what happens with Oracle.

Posted by James Hunt on May 18, 2010 at 05:28 AM PDT #

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