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NetBeans & FXMonday May 3, 2010
The netbeans folks are getting pretty far along in the release cycle for 6.9, and the FX folks got their 1.3 release out. Between the two they've done a a nice bundle that I've been playing around with for a while. There's a whole laundry list of improvements. The biggest thing you'll notice in NetBeans is OSGi support and a bunch of improvements in the "platform" support (using the core of NetBeans as the basis of your own applications). It's getting pretty sweet.

On the FX side, the performance boosts are wonderful; as are all the new UI components and the tooling in NetBeans to support it.

Comments:

Hi James, I'm Java project manager in France. Nice to hear from you. I read your blog sunday, because I wanted to understand a little better in which way Sun technologies (and Java in particular) were going to be continued. I was afraid you were feeling "depressed" after the april events. I admire what you done until now in your career. Thank you for all the wonderful inventions you have made. I love the Java platform, it's so rich and creative. I was in engineering school when the first Java release came out. How do you think FX is going to evolve ? Are there available examples of large application with full business cases and rich GUI implemented with it ? Best regards, Eric

Posted by Eric Manuguerra on May 03, 2010 at 11:42 AM PDT #

James: By FX, I presume you mean JavaFX, correct?

Posted by PKrill on May 03, 2010 at 02:48 PM PDT #

i first saw #javaFX in Sun TechDays at Hyderabad,India in year 2009... got inspired, used it... but past 1 yr. saw no major update in a Technology that challenged Flex & Silverlight at that time. I went back to Flex. Why this much delay in updates... this was a real long time break.

Posted by AbhishekKr on May 03, 2010 at 03:32 PM PDT #

http://platform.netbeans.org/screenshots.html Many large applications with full business cases are found on the NetBeans Platform (see above), which could easily make use of JavaFX components, if Sun/Oracle were to actually make that combination possible.

Posted by Geertjan on May 03, 2010 at 04:27 PM PDT #

Is it possible to talk to you about the future of Java, NetBeans, FX... Computerworld Poland

Posted by Adam Jadczak on May 03, 2010 at 11:52 PM PDT #

Great to see you using Apache Roller for your blogging platform btw :)

Posted by Dave on May 04, 2010 at 12:53 AM PDT #

netbeans improves year after year. now its greate IDE and i really love it .

Posted by amir on May 04, 2010 at 01:12 AM PDT #

The bad news about NetBeans is that its future is not clear, will it be maintained or supported like it was before? I known some people that are returning to other IDEs due to this uncertainties.

Posted by Eduardo on May 04, 2010 at 01:35 AM PDT #

Netbeans improving haha.. its downgraded.. all the UI development options are getting trimed.. first they screwd VWP, then in much anticipated 6.9.. no UML.. now they will be interested in chopping Swing UI.. I think eclipse is the clear winner the war of Java IDE s, even though all are mediocre compared to Visual Studio.. But always hats off to the Open Source software.. It will continue to rock.. will have to try improve them by contributing instead of Bashing..right..Please excuse these are out of frustration watching Visual Studio.. But will always stay with Java, even if they(MS) provide gold along with their IDE.

Posted by New on May 04, 2010 at 03:42 AM PDT #

Hi james.. I am from India. I am very passionate for java. I was in the cradle when you developed Java. But still its very young for us to learn. Currently am working in a US based IT company in Java Platform. Java is CLOSE TO MY HEART.. ALWAYS WILL BE.. THANK YOU JAMES>> You gave me a wonderful world to LEARN AND INNOVATE..

Posted by Carol Raj on May 04, 2010 at 08:43 AM PDT #

Well, my issue is simple. Throw away JavaFX or throw money at it massively to catch up with Silverlight 4 (with 5 already on its way). Also, allow JavaFX to be used from Swing - no way to ask developers to do a full switch...

Posted by 155.140.133.56 on May 04, 2010 at 09:49 AM PDT #

@amir: comparing Visual Studio to an IDE like Netbeans (whose main focus is Java) has no sense. AFAICT, the Netbeans editor is WAY better than VS's one. Also, considering you're comparing a FOSS project with a commercially (and highly priced) one, I suspect you wouldn't mind to fill the gap in UML toons buying a Visual Paradigm license. Also, remember to use more politeness and less ironic words when posting comments in the God's blog.

Posted by darkcg on May 04, 2010 at 10:31 AM PDT #

Visual Studio is a good IDE, but it loses all it's awesomeness when you try to use anything that's not from MS - that means, there's Visual C++, Visual C#, Visual Basic (does anyone serious still use this crap of a language?), and Visual Web Developer. There's no such thing as Visual Python, Visual Ruby, etc. MS tried a jab at java with J# only to fail hard at it. Meanwhile Eclipse and Netbeans act as language-agnostic IDEs. You could put anything on them, EVEN MS's languages.

Posted by Jack McSlay on May 04, 2010 at 12:48 PM PDT #

I had no disrespect to Mr.James Gosling.. but the comments are not because i hate this netbeans or eclipse, but after watching VS. but i know its no point comparing OSS to Commercial product.. but i think we all have freedom to express... @darkcg "I suspect you wouldn't mind to fill the gap in UML toons buying a Visual Paradigm license" ; i think there are oss alternatives , and iam not going to buy a commercial one.. so iam not at all asking your kind opinion on what to do..and i never asked for any opinion..it was just an act of expression..

Posted by New on May 04, 2010 at 09:23 PM PDT #

I agree @155.140.133.56 comment. mind your words before touching God's blog. Think whether u r worthy before you enter comment.

Posted by Prince on May 05, 2010 at 03:49 AM PDT #

Ha ha.. I know James Gosling as a normal man..He is very nice guy, but iam so late to know that he is GOD...Oh My God :)

Posted by James on May 05, 2010 at 05:44 AM PDT #

I was at the JavaOne last year. What is happening to the JavaFX Authoring tool. It seems impossible to find any news regarding that?

Posted by Peter from Denmark on May 05, 2010 at 06:06 AM PDT #

Still no built-in support for GIT.

Posted by EAPARNELL on May 05, 2010 at 06:40 AM PDT #

Common guys the don James is a humble guy. Please don't refer to him as God. There are good other words that qualifies his status than God please.

Posted by vehe on May 05, 2010 at 07:32 AM PDT #

"MS tried a jab at java with J# only to fail hard at it" That could not be more false. J# was a strategy for easing the transition to .Net for Java developers. It turned out to be largely unnecessary because C# shares a C-based syntax with Java. Microsoft's version of Java was Visual J++, and it was the fastest implementation of Java available. Sun did not like that it was taking advantage of OS-specific extensions to achieve this, so they stirred up legal issues for MS. MS responded by removing the JVM from Windows, and relinquishing the right to call their version of Java "Java". J# could be thought of as an evolution of Visual J++ but they were not the same thing. Visual J++ did not even run on the .Net framework. I would love to see James join the team at Microsoft.

Posted by rroutput on May 05, 2010 at 09:27 AM PDT #

I hope these folks continue with java.........................

Posted by Radin on May 05, 2010 at 09:44 AM PDT #

Furthermore: Stating 'There's no such thing as Visual Python, Visual Ruby, etc.' is not correct. You could certainly extend VS as you like. There has been F# decoupled from VS for ages, also, there are Implementations for Eiffel and so on. Nevertheless I must admit that Eclipse or NetBeans feels kind of more flexibly extensible than VS. Besides, don't let us fight the IDE fight; let them do it. We can surely be the winners if they compete well.

Posted by Andreas on May 06, 2010 at 12:08 AM PDT #

NetBeans & FX ?????????

Posted by Selina on May 07, 2010 at 06:27 AM PDT #

Java is Every where........ I liked the comment: " Please excuse these are out of frustration watching Visual Studio.. But will always stay with Java, even if they(MS) provide gold along with their IDE " Nice one

Posted by Bijoy on May 08, 2010 at 05:35 AM PDT #

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